Benefits Again

[BoldonLad]

My apologies. I misunderstood what is wrong with her/their lifestyle as meaning they had gone wrong and we were asked to speculate on how.

My poor “O” level English strikes again

 

[Deleted member 28]

And what is the story on Octodad? Oh, there isn't one, right... because there never is.

I believe the same fella fathered them all, so I guess he was around for a while?

He should be taking responsibility as well, obviously.

 

[Deleted member 28]

Can anyone be sure that Ms Buchan has more children than the Prime Minister? She has the same number of children as Rod Stewart. And Mick Jagger. And - LOL - Clint Eastwood. Eddie Murphy has ten.

They claim benefits for them though and moan about it?

 

[Deleted member 28]

What about the ones who have the finances but don't actually look after them?

They're s**t fathers and terrible role models thats what they are, yeah I know 🙄

 

[Ian H]

If you need a purely utilitarian reason: it'll cost a lot less in the long term to give them a decent start in life than to not do so.

 

[winjim]

At what point in life should people take responsibility for their own actions in wokeworld?

There's been a thread started for this subject, but before we take it over there, you do realise in the context of your question that six of the children are minors, right?

Yes, I did realise that, but, presumably, the children did not conceive and/or give birth to themselves?,

That is almost exactly the point I was trying to make although I was trying to figure out where shep was coming from in case we were going round in circles.

 

[Bromptonaut]

It's the Mother I'm referring to, surely even you must realise that?

And?

What do you do about the Mother?

 

[Deleted member 28]

And?

What do you do about the Mother?

Anything you like, have as many kids as you like, claim what you're entitled to but don't start whinging about the system not working.

 

[Bromptonaut]

Anything you like, have as many kids as you like, claim what you're entitled to but don't start whinging about the system not working.

If the system's not working, like the benefit cap that even the Minister responsible, Lord Freud, now admits was red meat for the tabloids, why would you not shout up?

 

[Deleted member 28]

If the system's not working, like the benefit cap that even the Minister responsible, Lord Freud, now admits was red meat for the tabloids, why would you not shout up?

Here's a novel idea, have the amount of kids you can afford to support and feed.

 

[BoldonLad]

Only the six under 18 would qualify for Child Tax Credit or for the Child Element in Universal Credit. As in my OP £500 looks about right on tax credits and JSA. Because of the Cap she'd lose all but 50p of Housing Benefit but would still need to pay the rent in full and, in most places, a contribution to Council Tax.

She'd be expected to look for work but only outside school time as the youngest is under 13. That doesn't stop her taking work and paying for childcare, with support in UC or Tax Credits, but the cost would likely be prohibitive.

If however she could find 16hours a week @ £9/hr then she'd be a lot better off as she'd escape the cap.

OTOH with 6 school age children, even without pandemic related issues at school, would she have satisfactory attendance?

It would appear she has followed the "16 hour" route, but, no mention of hourly rate.

 

[BoldonLad]

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Anyhows up this is all a bit of a preamble to pondering the all important Venn diagram overlap.

"Too many caucasian babes, you feckless wench"

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You need to do your "due diligence", I think.....

 

[BoldonLad]

If you need a purely utilitarian reason: it'll cost a lot less in the long term to give them a decent start in life than to not do so.

Very true.

 

[Cirrus]

And what is the story on Octodad? Oh, there isn't one, right... because there never is.

I suspect he's still around but cohabiting probs mucks up the business model .

 

[Deleted member 28]

I suspect he's still around but cohabiting probs mucks up the business model .

If it was anything like where I grew up the Dad would leave, get his own council house and claim more benefits for being on his own and would flit between the Two houses. This was the '70's though.