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He wasn't my choice...but I was prepared to give him a chance ? Now I'm not.
Yet more Tory sleaze….
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Rusty Nails
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That's magnanimous of you. I could say the same about Corbyn, but you wouldn't believe it.
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No i don't doubt you....but you fell for the lies.Your idea of what makes a good leader/party as you've explained turned you against him.You saw him as weak and ineffectual ?
You favour someone who looks the part,I look for someone willing to try and better things,shame really.
A case of style over substance lol
Hitchington
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BoldonLad
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Isn't it necessary to have both?
Rusty Nails
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Looks and acts the part. Not looks in the sense of dress/physical looks, but looks, to members of the public, that he/she knows how to lead.
I suppose the weakness in my argument is Johnson, but that is possibly because some people still believe that an Oxbridge, public school toff is bred to lead.
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Forensic and flaggy ?
Tories are going to vote Tory....do you honestly think Labours popularity is Starmer or do you think the Tories are losing support to other parties ?
He's ahead because of Johnson and nothing to do with his policies whatever they are.
Put Sunak as leader and watch them flock back.
Rusty Nails
Country Member
Flaggy? Is that some strange local idiom that describes how he looks?
Labour's current popularity is definitely down to Johnson's current unpopularity. There's a long time for Tories to return to their normal values, but I hope that this has been a wake up call for those who voted Tory for the first time 2 1/2 years ago as to what those values really are.
Sunak would be a worry as a Tory leader, but I hope that Truss, the opportunist Thatcher wannabee, would get the job as she would soon show she's all fur coat and no knickers.
mjr
Active Member
Whereas it turns out he's led to bread... and cakes... and drinkies... especially during lockdowns.
farfromtheland
Regular AND Goofy
Ok, I think I need to make a very political answer to this, and I'm afraid it's in the form of another question. Could the reason such a leader is hard to find, in any party, be that you have to be too much of a scumbag to get to the top of that tree?
glasgowcyclist
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Could we keep this thread for the boundless Tory corruption and maybe start another for the merits of the Labour party leadership?
farfromtheland
Regular AND Goofy
That would be like walking on one leg.
glasgowcyclist
Über Member
Not really.
Please start a Labour thread if that’s what you want to talk about.
Please start a Labour thread if that’s what you want to talk about.
Rusty Nails
Country Member
No. I don't think that Corbyn, May, Starmer, Milliband, Brown, Major could accurately be described as scumbags, depending on your definition.
The way politics is today (and not just in this country imo) there has to be compromise, quid-pro-quo, sucking-up, influential allies, plus ability and good PR. All of which are unfortunate except in some dream world but I do not see that changing anytime soon.
