Women's football success

[winjim]

Kelly's Heroes is the obvious one but it's a bit hackneyed and I feel it doesn't quite capture the whole experience.

 

[Milkfloat]

Kellys mål var väldigt bra....

'Bra'vo

 

[matticus]

Kelly's Heroes is the obvious one but it's a bit hackneyed and I feel it doesn't quite capture the whole experience.

Is that what they're calling her boobies now? I don't think you can tweet that Jim, please put some thought into these things

 

[matticus]

Kellys mål var väldigt bra....

well done. You're smarter than me. Now what does it mean?

 

[matticus]

Nobody suggested banning anything..

Stop claiming you or anyone else is some kind of repressed victim of censorship, in all this..
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People are just asking, and expecting a bit more forethought from a TV pundit given the circumstances.

Love it. "repressed victim of censorship" - classic culture war jargon, well played!

'Gary' thought of it, thought about it, then tweeted it. He used his judgement (as nothing is banned, right?)

SO, simple question: can pundits make jokes about bras, or not? Allowed - or banned not allowed?

 

[mudsticks]

Love it. "repressed victim of censorship" - classic culture war jargon, well played!

'Gary' thought of it, thought about it, then tweeted it. He used his judgement (as nothing is banned, right?)

SO, simple question: can pundits make jokes about bras, or not? Allowed - or banned not allowed?

You're the one claiming that things are being banned..
Claiming that you or others are being 'censored'

Talk about hyperbole

Seems we have another context or nuance free zone..

How about a less simplistic, more real world question, or three even.

Could pundits possibly think a bit harder as to whether or not their language is helpful or not helpful.

And if they've made a misjudgement, and been informed it's not helpful, could they just simply apologise, think about it, and try to do better in future.??

Or is that just wayy too much to expect,??

 

[mudsticks]

Go on then.

You can't make me ..

 

[matticus]

Seems we have another context or nuance free zone..

How about a less simplistic, more real world question, or three even.

Could pundits possibly think a bit harder as to whether or not their language is helpful or not helpful.

And if they've made a misjudgement, and been informed it's not helpful, could they just simply apologise, think about it, and try to do better in future.??

Yeah, of course people with millions of followers should think before they post. I'm not going to defend all sexist/racist/aggresive "banter" or such-like.

But I'm not seeing the harm here. Plenty of people - male and female - agree. At some point you have to accept that harmless jokes WILL be made on the internet. You - and your fellow "feminazi mobsters" - declaring them "not helpful" doesn't mean anyone has to apologise. No-one has a duty to further your cause(s) with everything they say, and some things can't be categorised as either "helpful or not helpful".

Being female doesn't give you any special authority over everything said about females.

 

[BoldonLad]

Kelly's Heroes is the obvious one but it's a bit hackneyed and I feel it doesn't quite capture the whole experience.

Which experience are you referring to?

 

[BoldonLad]

Kelly's belly's on the telly?

I suspect she would prefer Gary's joke to that, but, of course, to be sure, we would have to ask her

 

[BoldonLad]

Kellys mål var väldigt bra....

Indeed it was

 

[winjim]

Which experience are you referring to?

Football match.

 

[mudsticks]

Yeah, of course people with millions of followers should think before they post. I'm not going to defend all sexist/racist/aggresive "banter" or such-like.

But I'm not seeing the harm here. Plenty of people - male and female - agree. At some point you have to accept that harmless jokes WILL be made on the internet. You - and your fellow "feminazi mobsters" - declaring them "not helpful" doesn't mean anyone has to apologise. No-one has a duty to further your cause(s) with everything they say, and some things can't be categorised as either "helpful or not helpful".

Being female doesn't give you any special authority over everything said about females.

And where did I say that it did..??

But being female might give me just a tad more insight into how it feels to be female in a world still full of men thinking they can say whatever the hell they like about females, or their bodies..

And seeming to have almost zero concern as to how any of those things might affect how we feel .

Especially of course, when those feelings are up against the 'rights' of guys to bantz about bras or breasts or whatever.

People are still free to care, or to not care, to apologise or not apologise.

We can also choose, to draw our own conclusions from those free choices made, and the people making them.

 

[Fab Foodie]

well done. You're smarter than me. Now what does it mean?

Kelly's goal was very good....

 

[Fab Foodie]

I suspect she would prefer Gary's joke to that, but, of course, to be sure, we would have to ask her

Well as men have bellies too, I thought maybe it was a non-gendered comment....