The Good News Only - thread...

[BoldonLad]

I disagree. The Bible was written by people, people who were just as socialised into the prevalent moral attitudes of their time as we are today. I don't think it is God's direct words (if you believe in God, obvs) - it's what Man interpreted as being God's will. As such it's perfectly reasonable to apply our brain to it's teaching and discern the important stuff.

I think you can justifiably select the bits that are the most authentic. If you're a Christian you would surely give more weight to the words of Jesus, than to a passage on what you can and eat from Leviticus.

It would have been really helpful if the early Church had extracted the words and teaching of Jesus from the texts and just said, 'You know what, let's just stick with all the good stuff... we can junk the rest'. But they didn't, so apart from the Quakers, we have had 2,000 years of Christian teaching in which the Church/State have interpreted the Bible to their own whims in order to control and subjugate their subjects. And stopped ordinary folk even reading it in their own language until 500 years ago*, just in case they realised how the Church was twisting it to suit their own needs.

* Big thumbs up to William Tyndale for his first English Bible.

Before commenting, I have to declare, I am a total none-believer, but......

As I understand it:

- There is not a single "Christian Church" there are several "major" franchises, with even more "unlicensed" practitioners

- There are various texts which have, for whatever reason, been omitted from what is commonly regarded as "The Bible", and, even now, are not widely available.

- Even the texts which exist, were written hundreds of years after the events to which they pertain. So, in addition to problems of language translation, there is added the possible variation in the story, with the passage of time

As if the above were not enough, we have also had a couple of thousand years for power blocks (ie the Church, Countries, and/or powerful individuals), to introduce a whole host of "nuances" to suit their own agenda

I would assume that similar comments to above could be applied to any/all of the worlds major religions.

Having said all that, if people wish to believe in it, so, be it, I have no problem with that, provided they don't impose any of it on me.

 

[matticus]

NACA is my bible.

 

[newfhouse]

NACA is my bible.

Mostly men spouting contradictory bollocks? That’s about right.

 

[newfhouse]

Back to good news. If this doesn’t make you smile there’s no hope for you. Sound on.


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[Fab Foodie]

Back to good news. If this doesn’t make you smile there’s no hope for you. Sound on.


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Blimey, C&G in Dad-dancing?

 

[AuroraSaab]

Before commenting, I have to declare, I am a total none-believer, but......

As I understand it:

- There is not a single "Christian Church" there are several "major" franchises, with even more "unlicensed" practitioners

- There are various texts which have, for whatever reason, been omitted from what is commonly regarded as "The Bible", and, even now, are not widely available.

- Even the texts which exist, were written hundreds of years after the events to which they pertain. So, in addition to problems of language translation, there is added the possible variation in the story, with the passage of time

As if the above were not enough, we have also had a couple of thousand years for power blocks (ie the Church, Countries, and/or powerful individuals), to introduce a whole host of "nuances" to suit their own agenda

I would assume that similar comments to above could be applied to any/all of the worlds major religions.

Having said all that, if people wish to believe in it, so, be it, I have no problem with that, provided they don't impose any of it on me.

I'm happy to accept the existence of the historical Jesus as an actual real person, and even the (relative) accuracy of some New and Old Testament events. But yes at one point a group of blokes sat down and decided which books went in the New Testament and which got binned off. We have in fact based most of Western culture for 2,000 years on the decisions of a committee....

At the end of the day though, regardless of what was in the Bible, the ruling overlords would use it to justify their own position of authority. Other religions do the same, and so do atheistic ideologies. Whatever the origin, whatever the holy book says, it always ends up with a few people lording it at the top and the rest of the populous getting shafted.

 

[Cirrus]

NACA is my bible.

The messiah is my sister

 

[Deleted member 49]

The messiah is my sister

I try not to offend with religion....but take the Stone Roses in vain and the gloves are off !

 

[LCpl Boiled Egg]

Jesus built my hotrod.

 

[Mr Celine]

Jesus built my hotrod.

Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz.

 

[Fab Foodie]

Thank fark for that....

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...er-nearly-24-years?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Puerile condescending shoot removed from radio after 24 years.
If Nadine had a hand in this I salute her....

 

[Ian H]

Thank fark for that....

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...er-nearly-24-years?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Puerile condescending shoot removed from radio after 24 years.
If Nadine had a hand in this I salute her....

I didn't realise he was still alive.

 

[Deleted member 49]

Thank fark for that....

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...er-nearly-24-years?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other

Puerile condescending shoot removed from radio after 24 years.
If Nadine had a hand in this I salute her....

Never listen to him....or sometimes in the background if it's on.But he doesn't bother me really.Its just background drivel.
Now Jeremy Vine....don't get me started 🙄

 

[Ian H]

I decided I deserved a pub lunch after getting utterly soaked during the last 40k of our 104k Saturday Social (well, the route was 68k, but I rode out & back as well).
Hic!

 

[mudsticks]

I didn't realise he was still alive.

I had no idea Radio 2 was still going ...