AuroraSaab
Legendary Member
As I've got older I've realised that all our idols end up having feet of clay. There are very few public figures who stand up to scrutiny in both their professional and personal lives.
When were you last inspired by a British politician?
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mudsticks
Squire
I think it's a very poor idea to idolise anyone.
For whatever reason.
Put anyone on a pedestal and you're bound to be disappointed before too long.
You can still be inspired by the actions, and stance taken by others.
Even as they show themselves to be fallible humans at the same time.
People having self awareness, trying their best, but also owning up to their own flaws and shortcomings with honesty, humility, and even a little humour can be inspiring in its way too.
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Oi, you leave 'God' out of this!
C R
Über Member
No-one has mentioned me yet, so not sure what you mean.
Milzy
Well-Known Member
Ian H
Guru
He may have been the father of Methuselah, but that's still several steps down from being an actual deity.
AuroraSaab
Legendary Member
As an aside, Diane Abbott has had the whip withdrawn.
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/dian...r-suggesting-jews-do-not-face-racism-12864141
Edited to add that it's for this:
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/dian...r-suggesting-jews-do-not-face-racism-12864141
Edited to add that it's for this:
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winjim
Welcome yourself into the new modern crisis
Tell me again how there was no anti-semitism in the Labour party under Corbyn? I get that as a black woman she is going to have a different view on racism to me, a white man, but she was shadow home secretary FFS.
Is it overly dramatic to say that it sounds like straight up Holocaust denial to me?
C R
Über Member
Yes
multitool
Shaman
Abbott's statement is extraordinarily tactless. I understand the point she is making, but I don't know why she only chooses to focus on US racism against blacks. There is racism around the globe, whether it be anti-chinese sentiment in Indonesia leading to the genocide of the 60's or anti-Uighur racism in China, currently.
monkers
Guru
I'm generally supportive of Diane Abbott. I'm really surprised she got this so very wrong. I'm astounded in fact.
monkers
Guru
I don't think the problem is that she is denying the struggles both past and present of any group of people. I don't happen to agree that this is Holocaust denial.
I think she doesn't understand that 'race' does not only pertain to skin colour or where one is from or ancestrally from.
I think she doesn't understand that 'race' does not only pertain to skin colour or where one is from or ancestrally from.
