Incredibly brave young women in Iran...

Beebo

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At 1pm on 21st Nov England play Iran at the World Cup.
I know sport should not be political but the players should show some form of support for the poetic Iran.
 
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mudsticks

mudsticks

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At 1pm on 21st Nov England play Iran at the World Cup.
I know sport should not be political but the players should show some form of support for the poetic Iran.

International sport is already political.

You don't have nation states, which sports teams represent, without having 'politics' in the first place.

The whole World Cup shebang being held in Quatar is of course a political event in itself, but I understand that's already being covered in another thread.
 

C R

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At 1pm on 21st Nov England play Iran at the World Cup.
I know sport should not be political but the players should show some form of support for the poetic Iran.

Many Iranians are travelling to Qatar to protest during the Iran matches. There was a lady in Newsnight yesterday asking the England side to join in the protest in the stadium.
 

C R

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Something tangible we can do here.
Contact your MP .

https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/60293/protests-in-iran

We've written to our MP, thank you for highlighting it.

Things in Iran are starting to get hairy. Last night protesters set fire to the house where Khomeini was born
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...et-fire-to-ayatollah-khomeinis-ancestral-home
Also, seminaries in several cities have been set on fire in cities around the country. People are not giving up, and the harder the repression, the stronger the protests become.
 
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mudsticks

mudsticks

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We've written to our MP, thank you for highlighting it.

Things in Iran are starting to get hairy. Last night protesters set fire to the house where Khomeini was born
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...et-fire-to-ayatollah-khomeinis-ancestral-home
Also, seminaries in several cities have been set on fire in cities around the country. People are not giving up, and the harder the repression, the stronger the protests become.

I totally get the strength of feeling that's leading to the fire setting.

Although i worry that will lead to justification of even fiercer repression .

But then we're talking about a regime that will have a woman killed for not covering her hair.
And then murder young people in non violent gatherings.

So the repression was already off the scale, our 'norms' of non violent direct action / peaceful protest, aren't necessarily relevant here.

Keeping it in the news and letting our representatives know that we've not forgotten, seems like all we can personally do atm.
 
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dutchguylivingintheuk

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Footballers have spoken, both the captain during the press conference (saying he is they are with the protestors and that thing need to be changed or word with the same meaning) and during the flag ceremony with the players refusing to sing.
Brave of them to do that hopefully it will encourage more to stand up. In that light, they(iranian forces) attacked the Kurdish in kurdish Iraq last week, ques they are afraid of the minority which even Saddam Hussein or Isis couldn't silent
 

C R

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The UN Human Rights Council has voted to establish an investigating commission on the protests in Iran

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ncil-votes-to-investigate-human-rights-abuses

This will hopefully will be a first step on determining responsibility, hopefully followed by criminal proceedings at some not too distant point.

The protests continue, with more victims every day. Today it was reported that a footballer had been arrested, with the general take being that this was a warning to the national team to behave.
 

Bazzer

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I saw a video yesterday of more protests apparently in Iran. The use of live bullets against the demonstrators was shocking!
 

C R

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I saw a video yesterday of more protests apparently in Iran. The use of live bullets against the demonstrators was shocking!

Initially the government seemed to think that they could ride out the protests, but over time they realised that people weren't backing down. At this point the revolutionary guard -seppah- started taking a more active role, and the death toll rose dramatically. There are images of people filming from their windows and being shot at. However the harsher repression seems to have brought even more protests.

The Guardian is reporting the arrest of the footballer I mentioned above.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...fouri-arrested-ahead-of-wales-match-world-cup
 
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mudsticks

mudsticks

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...three-day-strike-as-pressure-on-regime-builds

Yes it seems there was some confusion over what was said.

But it's a positive to see that so much of our media is still reporting, and that the regime in Iran are aware of and responding to that interest.

Agree the gov are not going to want to lose face - being seen to listen to their victims is anathema to those who seek to control by violence
 
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